tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post128304155953803103..comments2023-12-31T13:47:05.758+00:00Comments on Fat Man on a Keyboard: Decline and fallThe Plumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09244528534476387323noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-87032238315624527522022-05-04T08:45:18.096+01:002022-05-04T08:45:18.096+01:00http://www.daftarsbobets.asia/deposit-sbobet-bola-...http://www.daftarsbobets.asia/deposit-sbobet-bola-sakuku-bca/<br /><a href="http://www.daftarsbobets.asia/deposit-sbobet-bola-sakuku-bca/" rel="nofollow">Deposit Sbobet Bola Sakuku</a><br /><a href="https://slotjoker.asia/daftar-slot-joker/" rel="nofollow">Daftar Slot Joker</a><br /><a href="http://104.168.202.3/deposit-idnpoker-dana-10rb/" rel="nofollow">Deposit IDN Poker Dana 10rb</a><br /><a href="http://104.168.202.3/daftar-idn-poker-shopeepay/" rel="nofollow">Daftar IDN Poker Shopeepay</a><br /><a href="http://104.168.202.3/deposit-idn-poker-tanpa-rekening/" rel="nofollow">Daftar IDN Poker Tanpa Rekening</a><br /><a href="http://www.clubb388.com/" rel="nofollow">Agen Club388</a><br /><a href="https://www.clubb388.com/daftar-club388-sakuku/" rel="nofollow">Daftar Club388 Sakuku</a><br /><a href="https://www.situsibcbet.com/" rel="nofollow">Situs IBCBET</a><br /><a href="https://www.situsibcbet.com/deposit-ibcbet-pulsa-telkomsel/" rel="nofollow">Deposit IBCBET Pulsa Telkomsel</a>daftar sbobet asiahttp://www.daftarsbobets.asia/deposit-sbobet-bola-sakuku-bca/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-1150579993398370732011-09-28T14:34:40.225+01:002011-09-28T14:34:40.225+01:00Yep you're right, Peter. I Have been reading.Yep you're right, Peter. I Have been reading.Svensenhttp://www.reviewbuybestprice.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-40103928208542477652011-09-25T10:46:32.558+01:002011-09-25T10:46:32.558+01:00My comment should have read Khmer Rouge.
I blame ...My comment should have read Khmer Rouge.<br /><br />I blame the usual band of neo-Cons and Western interests for their influence on my spellingAndrew Coateshttp://www.tendancecoatesy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-11714953907798183532011-09-25T10:40:25.010+01:002011-09-25T10:40:25.010+01:00On Cambodia it's worth recalling that Pilger w...On Cambodia it's worth recalling that Pilger was not the first person (internationally) to expose the Khymer Rouge - an impression frequently given.<br /><br />That honour goes to François Ponchau. His Cambodge, année zéro 1977 was published a full two years before Pilger's famous documentary on the subject.<br /><br />On this topic it's worth noting that Alain Badiou - now celebrated as a 'Marxist' philosophical sage defended the Khymer Rouge up to and after the Vietnamese. intervention,Andrew Coatesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-52649802954155052022011-09-24T22:42:58.295+01:002011-09-24T22:42:58.295+01:00Also interesting that Pilger should condemn the US...Also interesting that Pilger should condemn the US for supposedly bankrolling 'Mujadeen Islamists [sic]' in Libya, given that he once said of the Iraqi 'resistance' - <i>"We cannot afford to be choosy. While we abhor and condemn the continuing loss of innocent life in Iraq, we have no choice now but to support the resistance, for if the resistance fails, the "Bush gang" will attack another country. If they succeed, a grievous blow will be suffered by the Bush gang."</i>Conormelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02489271687547358203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-43685811764757147772011-09-22T16:27:13.486+01:002011-09-22T16:27:13.486+01:00Excellent post.
Think I'm going to cancel my...Excellent post. <br /><br />Think I'm going to cancel my New Statesman subscription. I've decided not to waste any further money on a magazine that publishes Peter Wilby, John Pilger and Mehdi Hassan, whom I do not read these days, because I am not mad.James Bloodworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02056322603243514660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-8344768324722932222011-09-22T14:57:27.506+01:002011-09-22T14:57:27.506+01:00sackcloth and ashes, the US and the UK were ensuri...sackcloth and ashes, the US and the UK were ensuring that the Khmer Rouge kept Cambodia's seat at the United Nations.<br /><br />It's sad that Pilger has ended up as he has, because as I remember he seemed to be fired by genuine anger at injustice, unlike his cold-fish associate with the argument that admits no dissenting facts, Noam Chomsky.<br /><br />The pair of them are both due to feature at the Rebellious Media conference in London on 8-9 October. Chomsky's keynote speech is ironically blurbed "Chomsky has written that those wishing to play a meaningful role in influencing public policy must begin with honest inquiry, and education of themselves and others".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-38300475093697354662011-09-21T22:13:04.826+01:002011-09-21T22:13:04.826+01:00Peter, a point to make - the story of Western supp...Peter, a point to make - the story of Western support for the Khmer Rouge during the 1980s came from none other than Pilger himself. He got taken to court by ex-soldiers from 22SAS he accused of training the KR, and had to settle for damages.<br /><br />The US and British governments backed the Armee Sihanoukienne. The Chinese and Thais backed the KR.sackcloth and ashesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-77223761475864609062011-09-20T10:49:01.908+01:002011-09-20T10:49:01.908+01:00And Kellie, Alex, there is a general point here wh...And Kellie, Alex, there is a general point here which is not just about Kuperman's reliability. It is about the structure of an argument when contrarians are quoted uncritically as proof of an assertion, often when they are contradicting clearly established facts or overwhelming evidence.<br /><br />This is how conspiracy thinking and denialism works. It asserts that the opinion of one or more person trumps evidence. And it is the evidence, not the opinion, that is treated with scepticism. <br /><br />In this case, the opening paragraphs of <a href="http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/popular_rebellion_and_imperialist_designs1" rel="nofollow">this interview</a> are instructive. This is because the interviewee, Gilbert Achcar, is not wholly sympathetic to the intervention, but is absolutely clear about the evidence of impending disaster in Benghazi.<br /><br />I quote in response to the Boston Globe article:<br /><br /><i>Anyone who from far away disputes the fact that Benghazi would have been crushed is just lacking decency in my view. Telling a besieged people from the safety of a Western city that they are cowards – because that’s what disputing their claim that they were facing a massacre amounts to – is just indecent.</i>The Plumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244528534476387323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-7552180895819913052011-09-20T10:05:26.329+01:002011-09-20T10:05:26.329+01:00Thanks Kellie
Alex, I will just reply to this one...Thanks Kellie<br /><br />Alex, I will just reply to this one point:<br /><br /><i>You must have missed the revelations about the cosy relationship between Gaddafi and the CIA and MI6 during this rehabilitation.</i><br /><br />You should have scrolled down a few posts to read <a href="http://fatmanonakeyboard.blogspot.com/2011/09/principles.html" rel="nofollow">this one - Principles</a>.<br /><br />I was absolutely delighted that the decision to back the revolution meant the abandonment of this sordid policy. I am surprised you cannot share the joy and the gratitude of the Libyan people that the UN supported their revolution and helped it succeed. The fall of a tyrant is a moment for celebration, even if the next stages down the path are uncertain.<br /><br />http://libyafeb17.com/<br />http://feb17.info/The Plumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244528534476387323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-77043134850319494122011-09-20T09:20:03.957+01:002011-09-20T09:20:03.957+01:00Alex, the Boston Globe piece you link to is by Ala...Alex, the Boston Globe piece you link to is by Alan J Kuperman. He repeatedly distorts his sources <a href="http://airforceamazons.blogspot.com/2011/04/realism-deficit-2-walt-and-friends.html" rel="nofollow">as demonstrated here</a>. In short, he is a fraud.kelliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503738414917449549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-86558207925745787712011-09-20T05:53:11.895+01:002011-09-20T05:53:11.895+01:00"apart from the thousands of unarmed demonstr..."apart from the thousands of unarmed demonstrators killed already"<br /><br />But when NATO went to war, Libya was already embroiled in civil war. The unarmed demonstrations had long stopped.<br /><br />"Gaddafi's direct threat"<br /><br />False:<br /><br />http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions<br /><br />Gaddafi was a horrific individual, but not every negative claim about bad people is true.<br /><br />"the fact that Gaddafi was gleefully handing control of his country's natural wealth to the West"<br /><br />Gleefully is entirely wrong:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/business/global/the-scramble-for-access-to-libyas-oil-wealth-begins.html?pagewanted=all<br /><br />"in return for rehabilitation"<br /><br />You must have missed the revelations about the cosy relationship between Gaddafi and the CIA and MI6 during this rehabilitation.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-9047765840644392102011-09-18T22:41:33.962+01:002011-09-18T22:41:33.962+01:00You're so right, Peter. I too was once an admi...You're so right, Peter. I too was once an admirer of Pilger and even now find his sad decline into crazy "anti-imperialism" and support for the likes of Milosevic, and now Gaddafi,very, very sad. An object lesson in where "my enemy's enemy" gets you in politics.Jim Denhamhttp://shirazsocialist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-81020824966802280902011-09-18T15:59:17.780+01:002011-09-18T15:59:17.780+01:00I've been reading his guff on Libya in The New...I've been reading his guff on Libya in The New Statesman, I always know exactly what he is going to say before I even click on the link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-47482606103095156602011-09-16T20:07:57.955+01:002011-09-16T20:07:57.955+01:00Bang on Peter. I too was once an admirer but now f...Bang on Peter. I too was once an admirer but now find Pilger's views extraordinary, if not disturbing.Anton Dequehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07076828639042541217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-6263258600941287472011-09-16T17:15:36.136+01:002011-09-16T17:15:36.136+01:00Added to my list of Pilger links.Added to my list of <a href="http://airforceamazons.blogspot.com/2009/10/pilger-links.html" rel="nofollow">Pilger links</a>.kelliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503738414917449549noreply@blogger.com