tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post3213251448267238777..comments2023-12-31T13:47:05.758+00:00Comments on Fat Man on a Keyboard: Conventional wisdomThe Plumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09244528534476387323noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-15904286428643400012019-02-13T12:27:17.429+00:002019-02-13T12:27:17.429+00:00It's a decent piece Jim, but she's not qui...It's a decent piece Jim, but she's not quite saying the same thing. These are the two points I am trying to make.<br /><br />1.There's an interesting conversation added later to that Twitter thread. A commenter did some analysis of the Leave vote as percentage of the electorate rather than of the vote cast and the list of the areas that most strongly supported Brexit changes dramatically (except for Boston). Rather than post-industrial towns, they are small town and suburban areas on the periphery of larger urban areas. Given that most left behind areas were left behind around thirty years ago, he draws the conclusion that internal migration has played a big role in deciding which areas strongly favoured Brexit. The two areas that were most likely to vote Leave were those that young people left, and those that older people retired to. Demography, again, becomes a key factor, not just class.<br /><br />2. Not only should we not 'fetishize working class rage,'we should see that a large part of it is a myth. People on the lowest rungs of the income scale tended to vote Remain. This is especially true of younger working class voters. By lumping them in with older, lower middle-class voters, this is masked and we get the Brexit as a working class protest assumption. And nobody is interested in working class Remainers, so they disappear. Actually, there is little investigation of strongly Remain working class areas (like Liverpool or Glasgow) or the Remain vote in general as it doesn't fit the mainstream narrative. The Plumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244528534476387323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-4739011540939049492019-02-07T15:20:11.106+00:002019-02-07T15:20:11.106+00:00You may be interested in this, by Camila Bassi, th...You may be interested in this, by Camila Bassi, that makes (I think) at least some of the same points:<br /><br /><br />https://anaemiconabike.com/2019/02/07/fetishizing-brexits-working-class-rage/<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Jim Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01642992463679646250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36841665.post-40741051169442087642019-02-07T15:15:10.177+00:002019-02-07T15:15:10.177+00:00Superb comment and analysis, as ever. I especially...Superb comment and analysis, as ever. I especially like "I would happily abolish the vox pop. Sticking a microphone under the noses of unsuspecting and unrepresentative passers-by and expecting to learn something is silly. But the selection of where to go and who to speak to is conditioned by assumptions about who we are looking for and where": so very true.Jim Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01642992463679646250noreply@blogger.com